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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:09 am 

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Apologies if this is in the wrong sub forum.

For the past 4 or 5 days I have been having an extremely difficult time calibrating my three PS Eyes. I have got it to track twice before, but they were pretty horribly tracked. (Body flying out of scene; legs or arms spazzing out.) The area I am capturing in is 19ft x 11ft. Here are some pictures of the capture area.

http://imgur.com/a/vPIcj

I'm not entirely sure what I am doing wrong. I have read the guide multiple times but it has not helped me much. Here's also some calibration videos I recorded. Not sure if it will help or not.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lwyvisln2z30ubg/Calibrations.rar

Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. Recommended camera set ups would also be great. I'm trying to get as much capture space as I possible can.

If there's anything else you need to know that could possibly help me, please ask.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:28 pm 

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Didn't see how to edit the OP.

Just had a marker misdetection of .042%, I'm assuming that's good. Still couldn't get it track correctly. The moment I hit refit pose the actor's body became all contorted. I really have no clue what I could possibly be doing wrong.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:29 pm 
iPi Soft

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Hi
I have not yet looked at your calibration videos. Just noticed on the photos that there is a source of intense light in your capture space. Do you turn it off when taking a calibration record? Remember: light marker that you are holding in hand during recording should be the most bright light source which is visible to cameras.
Also I'd recommend you to add one more PS Eye camera to your installation. With 4 cams you can get much greater results than with 3. You can place them at corners of the square around the capture area.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:31 pm 

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Yes I do turn it off when calibrating. It's not in the field of view of any o the cameras when recording. Also 4 cameras might not be possible. That huge pillar in the middle of my basement would most likely get in the way.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:13 pm 
iPi Soft

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I have looked at your videos. The last two seem quite good. So definitely your problem is not with calibration but with processing action videos.
For verifying calibration results I recommend view at camera positions from "the bird's sight" after calibration. If the scene's geometry looks like your real installation than calibration is good and can be used for processing the action. If calibration is not good, cameras are usually in totally wrong positions and orientations. And do not forget to set proper scene scale (based on one of the cameras height) before saving the scene file.
When starting to process an action video, first you should position time track on T-pose frame, and manually adjust model position to approximately fit actor's position. Usually it's not that hard for T-pose. Watch carefully how model matches the actor in all cams. After that, press "Analyze actor's appearance" button, ensure model appearance looks similar to actor, and only then press "Refit pose" button. You can make several iterations with these buttons to increase the accuracy of both appearance and initial position. When you are happy with results in this frame, start tracking with "Track forward" button.
Another note about your installation. If you use your "big lamp" as primary light source when taking action videos, it is not good for tracking. Tracking with color cams is great when colors of actor's appearance are similar from points of view of all cams. That is when the lighting is uniform. And when using highly directional sources of light, this causes much shadows - actor is looking brighter from one cam and darker from another, and this reduces tracking quality.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:33 pm 

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Hi, thank for you help. Was able to fix my problems.

Here's the result of my work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lmXeoqfrz0


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:57 pm 
iPi Soft

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hoppit wrote:

Nice work! You can submit it to our monthly mocap competition.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:10 am 

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I already won :P

I'm the June winner.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:29 pm 
iPi Soft

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Cool! Wish you more nice works, Nick :)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:09 pm 

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you never said what you did to fix your problem...


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