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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:08 am 

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hello i want to make a mocap for save hand foot and ... + all hand fingers and face :)
can i make this mocap with ipi soft and kinect (or ps3 eye ) ??
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what The difference between one kinect or 2 kinect or 6 ps3 eye ?? which one is better 6 ps3 eye or 2 kinect ??
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:44 pm 
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Our software does not track face and fingers.
Hands can be tracked with the help of motion controllers (PS Move or Wii Remote).
The dual Kinect configuration provides better accuracy and a wider range of motions compared to the single Kinect setup.
You can find pros and cons of dual Kinect and 6 PS Eyes in our wiki: http://wiki.ipisoft.com/Dual_Depth_Sensors_vs_Sony_PS_Eye_Comparison


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:57 pm 

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so i most use with 6 ps3 eye !


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:48 am 

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The six PS3 Eyes configuration is the most accurate but it's also a more difficult setup and use--if you can manage the practical requirements (space, clothing, lighting, etc.,) and hardware specifications, and you don't mind the extra work, it's recommended.

Dual Kinect is a little less accurate but much easier to use. This is my preferred configuration because I don't have a lot of space to work in and I like the convenience of getting the work done much more quickly.

That said, I also have six PS3 Eyes just in case I need to capture something that the Dual Kinect system is incapable of. To be honest though, I haven't had a need to set up the six PS3 Eye system for a few years now--Dual Kinect has worked out fine for the various projects/productions I've used it on (our shorts 'Happy Box' and 'Don't Fear The Pooper' (still in production), and for vfx shots in a couple of feature films.) The one downside to Kinect is that you have a smaller capture space than with PS3 Eye, but I've usually been able to work around the limitations of small space captures by merging multiple mocap sequences in Motion Builder. I believe you can do similar mocap mixing by using online web services like Ikinema Webanimate. I haven't tried Ikinema myself yet but because my version of Motion Builder is getting pretty old, I've been looking around for a capable and less costly alternative for our studio.

Triple Kinect is supposed to be just as accurate as six PS3 Eyes with the benefit of easy set up and use. I've dabbled with it but only as far as seeing it work. I haven't use it in actual production yet but will do so very soon. (As usual, I'm up to my eyeballs in other work at the moment.) :p

I'm a little hesitant to spend a lot of money right now because a new version of iPi Mocap Studio may be coming out in a few months which will support the new Kinect and possibly other advanced devices. I'm really looking forward to this upgrade! :D

But if you need mocap right now, in my opinion, the current iPi Mocap Studio with a Dual Kinect setup is an excellent balance between cost, performance and ease of use.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:17 pm 

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i think that dual kinect is better for me
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i saw many video in youtube. all people save his movement in big room or studio
can i save my body movement in The crowded and small room ?? :d


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:28 pm 

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We currently shoot all our mocap data in our living room, which is very convenient because our art/computer studio is in an adjoining room. The living room is not very big though, so the dual Kinect configuration has been ideal. We could not possibly use the six PS3 Eye configuration in that room. If we have to use the PS3 Eye configuration, we would have to shoot in our garage or find another location, which means transporting all our mocap gear--something I wish to avoid doing as much as possible. This is the biggest reason why I prefer the dual Kinect setup.

But if you have a large space with fairly controllable lighting (as non-directional as possible,) the PS3 Eye setup is definitely worth considering.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:23 pm 

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can you give me a tutorial for setup dual kinect with ipisoft please ?? a full tutorial for setup kinect and for ipisoft (editor or ... )


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