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 Post subject: capturing kids
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:21 am 

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hi,

i am using the software for research purpose, i want to start a project involving capture of kids in age range of 2-6, can someone tell me if this can be done with ipisoft? and what are the limitations in this case?

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 Post subject: Re: capturing kids
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 3:50 am 
iPi Soft

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Hello,
the main limitation for kids/babies is that their body proportions differ much from that of adults'
Before doing tracking, you need to adjust body proportions on Actor tab of iPi Mocap Studio.
http://docs.ipisoft.com/User_Guide_for_Multiple_Depth_Sensors_Configuration#Processing_Video_from_Multiple_Depth_Sensors

You can consider using dual Kinect sensors or 6 Sony PS3 Eye cameras for tracking. See pros and cons:
http://docs.ipisoft.com/Multiple_Depth_Sensors_vs_Sony_PS_Eye_Comparison

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 Post subject: Re: capturing kids
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:02 pm 

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thank you for the fast answer.

my plan is to use 3 kinect sensors, and i belive that in this age they are already walk, its just that the proportions are a bit different, the software can handle those proportions? do you think that 3 kinect are a good choice for my purpose? and if so what is the best configuration?

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 Post subject: Re: capturing kids
PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:29 am 
iPi Soft

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Yes, you can set kids proportions. I'm not 100% sure about babies, but 2-6 years olds should be definitely ok.

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 Post subject: Re: capturing kids
PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:18 pm 

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Back in 2012 my then 5-year old daughter and I recorded and tracked what was probably the first iPi Mocap test done with a small child using two 'old style' XBox Kinect sensors. Back then, the iPi system was not designed for children. For example, the tracking rig could only be scaled down to 1 meter and you could not adjust the body proportions. All things considered, it worked remarkably well:

Mocap Test with Small Child (1 meter tall)

Sorry I don't have a more recent 'child mocap' example to show but the current system is much more accurate these days since the body proportions are now customizeable and you can use more and better sensors and cameras.

From what I recall, the trickiest thing was that my daughter moved very quickly and unpredictably, so you may want to consider PS Eye if you have the space and proper lighting for it. However, if you're using PS Eye, the kids will need appropriately colored and properly fitted clothing, which may complicate things.

If you're okay with the lower framerate, the Kinect based system is obviously fine though. TBH, when we recorded this session, I thought it was going to be untrackable, but her little dance actually tracked with reasonable accuracy and minimal clean up. And I was using a beta release of version 2.0 at the time! :)

The other thing to consider is that children at that age do not have a long attention span, so plan your session very carefully so you can keep it flowing briskly and efficiently. Make sure there are things for the kids to do in between recording--if they get bored, you will not be able to get a good performance.

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 Post subject: Re: capturing kids
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:57 pm 

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thank you very much for your answer, it was very helpful.


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