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That may be nice also, test it with the distributive recording once you get all set up and let me know how it works for you.

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I tested the remote control from Team Viewer this morning running from my tablet using the free for non-commercial version Remote edition only App.

It seemed to work fine with the PS Eyes set I used before (5+1) I just set up the slave on the that machine and entered slave manually on it (done).

(I tried to run T-V on the Master its self and remote the slave for all setup, but I had to minimize the slave machines window first (slower machine) for its cam to run at right near 59.5+/-, with its window open it wouldn't get above 20 fps for just the one cam and couldn't start record. (probably due to poor video card right now).

Several attempts to try with it open, just wouldn't run right on that slow machine, until I minimized the window on the manual setup.

I controlled all connections to slave through Team Viewer on the tablet, although was a bit small 10" screen and harder to hit individual buttons, it did work.

All cams ran at least 59.5+/- fps to maintain the recording, if one cam fails it will ruin the recording, so good it didn't do that in this test, but it can drop out at anytime without warning.

I just wanted to try it through the unattended connection through a tablet, would probably work better through the Companion mini computer or regular laptop I am sure.

I guess if your running multiple machines as slaves, they would have to be setup manually and entered to slave mode on each first, then all can be selected on connect to slaves through the tablet remote, or right on Master before you left the room.

It will probably work as good with the Kinects, I can't see why it wouldn't, especially if you can set the slave up on its own machine and enter slave mode on it, then your done with that machine for the whole session. (unless of course cams drop out, then would need to go rest them).

Only one instance of the program can be run from a tablet, maybe on a stronger laptop several instances can be run to remote several machines, or maybe RDC also running on the Master to remote to each slaves network connection and those windows alone could be selected and minimized during use, (say, to reset a dropped cam), I ran another instance from the Master, by selecting it on the tablet and connected that to the slave machine and could control it also :) Still had to minimize the recorder window for it to work right though, but worked fine. (even with that monitor disconnected from the machine).

You pick the folder for the slave and Master to download into and merge to one (.iPiVideo only on the Master)(saves slave video to its own location on slave machine, saves all files on the Master), but it doesn't allow naming until after that, so that may be a bit hectic for many back-to-back recordings, going to the folder each time to name the merged files, especially if using a small tablet, laptop would probably be much easier.
I guess if I had my BT keyboard on the tablet, it wouldn't be too bad for naming, but didn't for these few tests. (may interfere with Moves though, I didn't test that, but being explicitly paired to its ownt dongle, maybe not). I will have to test that, using the BT keyboard.

It's good anyway to know it works, I may need that at some point in the future, thanks for bringing it to my attention again, the last time I used Team Viewer was years ago, but it's easy to setup, configure and connect.

If anyone else is interested in controlling their Master with a Wi-Fi device or laptop from a remote location or even just to watch what someone is doing on the Master, (selecting show remote cursor in settings), because you can still control the Master from the machine while it's connected, you just can't touch the remote devices mouse/cursor at the same time, or you will interfere with the Master machines control.

You can also instant chat between the remote device and the Master within the program itself, that's a pretty neat option for someone watching, but not controlling the Master, (like a director), and it also has a whiteboard if needed for drawing on-screen.

Could be a pretty handy program for many reasons.

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I didn't sign up for the Contacts and Computer Manager, I guess that is how you can control more than one other machine at a time.

I was however able to just daisy-chain from the tablet to the Master, then from the Master to the slave by opening and instance of the program on the Master also.

I only have the 2 machines to worry with, so it worked fine.

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Ah, I didn't realize that was a limitation with the free Team Viewer. I've only ever used to to connect to my workstation at home from another location (on- and off-site.)

I also use a program called Anyplace Control for managing the boxes on our render farm. We have each render node plugged into a KVM switch but sometimes it's more helpful to see all the computers running on the same screen. It's not free though and I'm not sure how well it would work for Mocap Studio. (Guess I could try it.)

G.

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What are you referring to as a limitation for the free version?

That it can't put out a quad view of all connected machines?

It has a Computer Manager thing you sign up for, (I didn't want to), but I think you can connect to more than 2 computers easier through the App its self, not sure though.

Or, maybe the paid version can do more.

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Yes, that's what I meant: I've never used the free Team Viewer to display more than one computer screen at a time, but this is something I do routinely with AnyPlace Control (which is not free but I've been using it for a lot longer then I have used Team Viewer.)

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Ok, yeah I guess if you use a different program that will do that, would be better for you.

I just did a kind of work-around, wasn't even needed since I could just manually setup and enter the slave, then you really don't have to go back to it as long as the camera don't drop out.

It will work for more than one machine control the way I explained it without using the Computer Manager thing, but that may be easier for several computers, if that's how it even works, I don't know.

I personally will probably just use the RDC in Windows for now, it worked fine for just the one other machine and I can put that monitor back on my main machine, that's where I like to put all my programs workspace windows, so they are off my main screen :)

I got my adapter for the Kinect and the video card today, installing it now and will post if the Kinect can fire up on that machine now, or if it won't xx crosses fingers xx

Team Viewer free does work though through a tablet or smart device, just depends on if you want to work with that small of a screen, mini laptop, MS surface, or other laptop would sure be easier.

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Well... the older comp wouldn't work with the Kinect v2, the USB 3.0 adapter was bottlenecked at 2.5Gbs by the motherboard I suppose.

I am just going to purchase a newer refurb'ed machine (2010+) with a better board and processor, it's cheaper than trying to upgrade the older machine.

I can still use the video card, USB 3.0 adapter and HDD from the other anyway, so no loss, was worth a shot.

The Kinect v2 requires the full Link Speed of the USB adapter to function properly at full speed, or the camera will just stop and start do to the bandwidth limitation if not.

You can use this small portable program to check your adapter link speed if you want, before you find the cam won't run.

It's called HWINFO64 and select the portable version so you don't have to download it to your machine at all.

To view link speed of the adapter, you will have to locate it in the device manager list that appears by using the drop down (+) icons and it won't be in the USB selections, it will most likely show under the computer controller section.

If anyone gets a Kinect v2 working on a slower computer with an Athlon 64 x2 dual core 2GHz processor, or similar, please post the component combination that was used.

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Thanks for the heads up. I didn't get to test this past weekend but this is good to know. My render boxes are probably 3 to 4 years old so I think they'll be okay. I think I'm getting the full bandwidth with my older workstation (I was able to use three v1 Kinect sensors plug three PS Move controllers with it) but I'm not planning to connect v2 to that machine anyway.

Hope the refurbished machine works out for you.

G.

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After more consideration and looking through refurbs, I think to not have any further issues and to have a machine work for the next few years, I am just going to revamp the old cabinet with a mid-grade USB 3.0 motherboard, mid-grade i5 processor, possibly a better video card if the GT610 won't work, though should, and possible PSU or run Add2PSU and connect another to it and a small 160G SSD for the program and the 1T for storage.

I don't feel like having dropping issues from the USB 3.0 card bandwidth, or a merging issues from slave, nor do I feel like taking the risk that a refurb still wouldn't work without upgrades.

My main machine is a USB 3.0 motherboard machine and PCI-e x16 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s, so it has no issues and processes the video well.

May cost just a bit more than a refurb, but what I see available reasonable isn't worth it, bumping to 3.0 mobo will work better and not much more expense, depends what I can find, but I will get better steadier results and better actual data transfer speed overall.

I don't need a high-end machine, just one with USB 3.0 that will work well with the Kv2 all the time, it will be dedicated to just that cam, and will limit issues occurring during sessions, which I don't like happening.

So, will take me a bit longer now to test with 2 cams, but better in the long-run.

I would like to hear if anyone has gotten two Kinect v2 to work with a mid-grade OEM USB 2.0 machine with a USB 3.0 controller added, or a mid-grade laptop, just to know.

I hope your machines run well and you will be able to get some test recordings done soon.

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